Before Nadia Comăneci’s and Nellie Kim’s perfect 10s at the 1976 Olympic Games, there was a long line of gymnasts who obtained perfect scores at the Olympic Games, the World Championships, or the European Championships. (Originally, the World Championships were called the International Tournament.)
Some of them even managed perfect totals, meaning that they received the maximum score for their compulsory and optional routines combined.
So, here’s a chronological list of the gymnasts who were “perfect” before Comăneci and Kim.

Disclaimer: There certainly are more gymnasts whose scores have been lost to history or are gathering dust in an archive somewhere. If I ever find them, I will update this list.
1905 International Tournament
Perfect Total
| Gymnast | Team/Nation | Total | Event |
| Marcel Lalu | France | 36.0 | High Bar |
That meant that Lalu scored a perfect 12.0 on his two compulsory routines, as well as his optional routine.
Additional Perfect Scores
In addition, Joseph Martinez of France scored a 35.75 on high bar, which meant that he scored 12.0s on two of his three routines.
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Event |
| Joseph Martinez | France | 12.0 12.0 | High Bar |
Source: Olympische Turnkunst, July 1966
More here: 1905: The World Championships That Almost Didn’t Happen
1907 International Tournament
There were several perfect scores in Prague, and there was one perfect total.
Perfect Total
| Gymnast | Team/Nation | Total | Event |
| François Vidal | France | 24.0 | High Bar |
Additional Perfect Scores
During the preliminary calisthenic exercises, the following gymnasts received perfect 10s:
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Exercise |
| Josef Seidl | Czech Sokols | 10.0 | Fifth |
| Josef Čada | Czech Sokols | 10.0 10.0 | First Fifth |
| Joseph Lux | France | 10.0 10.0 | Second Fifth |
| Louis Ségura | France | 10.0 10.0 | First Fifth |
| Pol. Giesenfeld | Belgium | 10.0 10.0 10.0 | Second Fourth Fifth |
| Leo Pauwels | Belgium | 10.0 | Fourth |
In addition to the 10.0s above, there were perfect 12s on the apparatus:
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Event |
| František Erben | Czech Sokols | 12.0 | Parallel Bars, Optionals |
| František Erben | Czech Sokols | 12.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Georges Charmoille | France | 12.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Jules Rolland | France | 12.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Joseph Lux | France | 12.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Louis Ségura | France | 12.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
Source: V. slet všesokolský 1907: pamětní list vydaný péči
More here: 1907: Perfect Scores Abound at the World Championships in Prague
1909 International Tournament
Perfect Totals
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Total | Event |
| Joseph Martinez | France | 24.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Joseph Martinez | France | 24.0 | High Bar |
Additional Perfect Scores
To receive a 23.75 meant that the gymnast received a perfect 12 on one routine and an 11.75 on another routine. (Without the score sheets, it’s impossible to know whether the perfect routine was on compulsories or optionals.) The following gymnasts scored 23.75s:
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Auguste Castille | France | 12.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Josef Čada | Czech Sokols | 12.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Josef Čada | Czech Sokols | 12.0 | High Bar |
| František Erben | Czech Sokols | 12.0 | High Bar |
| Karel Fuks | Slovenian Sokols | 12.0 | High Bar |
| Guido Romano | Italy | 12.0 | Rings |
| Marco Torrès | France | 12.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Marco Torrès | France | 12.0 | Rings |
Source: Olympische Turnkunst, March 1967
More here: 1909: French Algerian Gymnasts Dominate the World Championships
1911 International Tournament
Perfect Totals
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Total | Exercise |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 24.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Josef Czada | Czech Sokols | 24.0 | High Bar |
| Ferdinand Steiner | Czech Sokols | 24.0 | Rings |
| Osvaldo Palazzi | Italy | 24.0 | Pommel Horse |
Additional Perfect Scores
To receive a 23.75 meant that the gymnast received a perfect 12 on one routine and an 11.75 on another routine. The following gymnasts scored 23.75s:
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Dominique Follacci | France | 12.0 | Rings |
| Pietro Bianchi | Italy | 12.0 | Rings |
| Antoine Costa | France | 12.0 | Rings |
| Dominique Follacci | France | 12.0 | Parallel Bars |
| Marco Torrès | France | 12.0 | High Bar |
Source: Olympische Turnkunst, August 1967
1913 International Tournament
Perfect Totals
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Total | Event |
| Josef Czada | Czech Sokols | 20.00 | High Bar |
| Marco Torrès | France | 20.00 | High Bar |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 30.00 | Preliminary Calisthenics |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 20.00 | Parallel Bars |
| Guido Boni | Italy | 20.00 | Parallel Bars |
| Vinko Rabič | Slovenian Sokols | 30.00 | Preliminary Calisthenics |
Additional Perfect Scores
- Given that Josef Sýkora of the Czech Sokols scored 29.50 during the preliminary calisthenics, he received at least one perfect 10.
- Given that Marco Torrès of France scored 29.75, he received two perfect 10s during the preliminary calisthenics.
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Josef Sýkora | Czech Sokols | 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
| Marco Torrès | France | 10.0 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
The following gymnasts scored a 19.75 on an apparatus routine, which meant that they scored one 10.0 on either their compulsory or optional routines:
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Laurent Grech | France | 10.0 | Rings |
| Marco Torrès | France | 10.0 | Rings |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 10.0 | Pommel Horse |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 10.0 | Rings |
| Guido Boni | Italy | 10.0 | Rings |
Source: Sokol, 1913, 12
1922 World Championships
Perfect Totals
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Total | Event |
| Stanislav Jindruch | Czechoslovakia | 30.00 | Preliminary Calisthenics |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 20.00 | Parallel Bars |
Additional Perfect Scores
Mathematically speaking, because Josef Malý, František Vaněček, and Peter Šumi scored 29.50s in the preliminary calisthenics, they received at least one 10.0.
And because Slavko Hlastan scored a 29.75 in the preliminary calisthenics, he received two 10.0s.
| Gymnast | Country | Score | Event |
| Slavko Hlastan | Yugoslavia | 10.0 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
| Josef Malý | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
| František Vaněček | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
| Peter Šumi | Yugoslavia | 10.0 | Prelim. Calisthenics |
To receive a 19.75 meant that the gymnast received a perfect 10 on one routine and a 9.75 on another routine. The following gymnasts scored 19.75s on an event:
| Gymnast | Country | Score | Event |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 10.0 | High Bar |
| Peter Šumi | Yugoslavia | 10.0 | High Bar |
| Dr. Miroslav Klinger | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | High Bar |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 10.0 | Rings |
| Peter Šumi | Yugoslavia | 10.0 | Rings |
| Miroslav Karásek | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Rings |
| Josef Malý | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Rings |
Source: Štukelj, Mojih sedem svetovnih tekmovanj
1924 Olympics
Perfect Scores
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Albert Séguin | France | 10.0 | Side Horse Vault, Compulsory |
| Giorgio Zampori | Italy | 11.0 | Parallel Bars, Optionals |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 11.0 | Rings, Optionals |
| Ladislav Vácha | Czechoslovakia | 11.0 | Rings, Optionals |
Source: Štukelj, Mojih sedem svetovnih tekmovanj
More: 1924: The First Perfect 10 in Gymnastics at the Olympic Games
1926 International Tournament
Perfect Score
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 16.0 | Rings Optionals |
Note: Leon Štukelj received three 10s for his optional routine on high bar. However, he received only 0.90 for his mount and dismount. So, his final score of 15.90 was not quite perfect.
Source: Štukelj, Mojih sedem svetovnih tekmovanj
1928 Olympics
Perfect Score
| Gymnast | Country/Team | Score | Event |
| Eugen Mack | Switzerland | 30.0 | Vault, Compulsories |
The compulsory and optional vaults were averaged together. Eugen Mack scored 27.50 for his optional vault, resulting in an average of 28.75 points (and a gold medal).
Source: Štukelj, Mojih sedem svetovnih tekmovanj
More: 1928: A Costly Math Error during the Men’s Competition at the Amsterdam Olympics
1930: World Championships
Perfect Totals
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Total | Event |
| István Pelle | Hungary | 32.0 | High Bar |
| Emanuel Löffler | Czechoslovakia | 32.0 | Rings |
Additional Perfect Scores
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Total | Event |
| Nikolaus Péter | Hungary | 16.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Leon Štukelj | Yugoslavia | 16.0 | High Bar, Optionals |
| Josip Primožič | Yugoslavia | 16.0 | Pommel Horse, Compulsories |
Source: Štukelj, Mojih sedem svetovnih tekmovanj
1934 World Championships
Perfect Total
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Total | Event |
| Eugen Mack | Switzerland | 20.0 | Vault |
Source: Olympische Turnkunst, February 1968; Világ- és Európa-bajnokságok, 1893-1973; Der Bund, June 3, 1934
More: 1934: Math Problems and Two Perfect 10s during the Men’s Competition at the World Championships
1938 World Championships
Perfect Score
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Event |
| Eugen Mack | Switzerland | 10.0 | Vault, Optionals |
Source: Neue Zürcher Nachrichten, July 2, 1938; Sokol (Czechoslovakia), 1938, 6-8
More: 1938: Another Perfect 10 and Shot Put Struggles during the Men’s Competition at the World Championships
1950 World Championships
Perfect Score
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Event |
| Hans Eugster | Switzerland | 10.0 | Parallel Bars, Compulsories |
Source: Gazette de Lausanne, July 17, 1950.
More: 1950: A Perfect 10 in the Men’s Competition at the World Championships
1967 European Championships
Perfect Scores
| Gymnast | Team/Country | Score | Event |
| Věra Čáslavská | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Beam, Event Finals |
| Věra Čáslavská | Czechoslovakia | 10.0 | Floor, Event Finals |
Source: U.S. Gymnast, August 1967
More: 1967: Čáslavská’s 10.0s at the Women’s European Championships
Note
There were more perfect scores at national and smaller international competitions. For example, between 1964 and 1968, there was a flurry of 10.0s at women’s national competitions, including:
- Grossfeld — Floor — 1964 U.S. Olympic Trials
- Čáslavská – Floor – 1966 Czechoslovak Nationals
- Zuchold – Floor – 1968 East German Championships
- Zuchold – Vault – 1968 East German Championships
- Janz – Vault – 1968 East German Championships
- Petrik – Vault – 1968 Soviet Nationals
- Petrik – Floor – 1968 Soviet Nationals
- Kuchinskaya – Bars – 1968 Soviet Nationals
- Voronina – Floor – 1968 USSR Cup
Another example: During the qualification process for the 1976 Olympics, Comăneci scored 10.0s on six of her eight routines in Ontario, Canada (Source: De Volkskrant, February 28, 1976).
Note #2
The 10.0 system had been in question long before the 1976 Olympics. You can read a few articles here:
8 replies on “The Perfect Scores before Nadia Comăneci and Nellie Kim”
Congratulations on your excellent article. Here are results i found – some of which you already have.
At the Olympic Games in Paris 1900 Hugo Peitsch of Germany received a perfect score for his high bar routine.
In the World Championships in 1922 Leon Štukelj (YUG) scored the maximum of 20 points on parallel bars (compulsory and optional exercises).The maximum score was also achieved by Štukelj on his optional exercise of rings.
Albert Seguin of France scored 10 on the side horse at the 1924 Olympics. (Horse vault breadth without pommels to give it its full title). In these Olympic Games, the maximum scores were given to Zamporini (ITA) for his optional exercise on parallel bars, also to the optional exercise from Štukelj (YUG) on rings and to Segiun (FRA) on compulsory vault. 19 gymnasts scored a 10 in the AA competition at this Olympics in …rope-climbing. The gymnast had to climb a 25-foot rope from a standing position in 9 seconds or less. If the gymnast took over 9 seconds he lost 1 point for every 1/5th of a second.A 10 second climb would score a 5.A 10 1/5 climb would also receive a 5 but for every additional 2/5ths of a second beyond that, another 1.0 would be lost .A gymnast who took 12 or more seconds would score 0. Eleven gymnasts scored 0.Al Joachim of the USA finished 31st AA after scoring 2 on the rope climb. Without it he would have finished 10th. M.Klinger of Czechoslovakia scored 8 and finished 5th AA. A score of 10 on the ropeclimb and he would have won bronze AA.
Leon Stukelj scored a 10 on rings at the 1926 World Championships. IG magazine,november 1996, page 37, interview with Leon Stukelj. He said that at the 1926 World Championships “In my rings routine i was the only one to perform a difficult element – a cross handstand. When i finished my routine all three judges awarded the highest score,10 points, and even started to applaud”.
In the Olympic Games 1928 Eugene Mack (SUI) obtained the maximum score on vault over pommel horse (the apparatus from that time).
In the World Championships 1930 the maximum score was achieved by Istvan Pelle (HUN) for compulsory and optional exercises on high bar. Other maximum scores were obtained by Peter (HUN) and Štukelj (YUG) both on their optional exercise on high bar, also by Emanual Loeffler (TCH) for compulsory and optional exercises on rings and Josip Primožič (YUG) on his compulsory exercise of pommel horse.
Eugen Mack of Switzerland received 2 perfect scores of 10.00 in vaulting at the 1934 World Championships. The 1934 World Championships were held in Budapest and were the FIG’s first World Championship. 15 teams competed but Mexico were the only non-European country there.
Grant Shaginyan scored 4 10’s at a 1949 dual meet between the USSR and Hungary. He received perfect scores for his compulsory pommel horse exercise and his optional exercises on pommel horse, parallel bars and rings.
Hans Eugster (Switzerland) scored 10 on the compulsory parallel bars at the 1950 World Championships.
In the 1952 USSR V Hungary Dual Meet Dmytro Leonkin scored a 10 for his compulsory Rings routine and Viktor Chukarin for his optional pommel horse routine.
At the 1953 NAAU championships in the USA Charlie Simms got a perfect score on high bar.
A Swiss judge scored Haruhiro Yamashita a 10 for his full-twisting Yami in the 1960 Olympic VT event finals.
In the early 1960’s Yale gymnast Russ Mills would often score 10.00 almost every time he competed on pommel horse.
Cerar of Yugoslavia was scored a 10 by 1 judge on pommel-horse in both team optionals and event final in the 1962 World Championships.
Nik Stuart scored a 10 on high bar at the 1963 British Championships.
Mikhail Voronin recieved a 10 on rings at the 1965 USSR Championships and, while it wasn’t his final score, one judge gave him a 10 at 1966 Worlds – i can’t remember if it was rings or high bar.
In 1972 a Japanese gymnast scored 10 on the High Bar.
A Soviet gymnast scored a 10 on vault at the April 1976 competition between Switzerland, Australia and the USSR.
( At the 76 Olympics in team optionals Nikolai Andrianov scored a 9.5 on high bar with a fall which meant the judges would have scored it a 10 without the fall).
In women’s gymnastics the 10’s came later.
At the 1951 Hungarian Masters Championships Agnes Keleti scored a perfect score for her compulsory portable hand apparatus exercise.
At the 1952 USSR v Hungary Dual Meet Medea Jugeli scored a 10 for her compulsory vault.
At the 1958 World Championships the South African judge scored Bosakova of Czechoslovakia a 10 on beam.
Muratova was scored 10 by 1 judge at the 1963 USSR Championships for her bars exercise.
10 was given to US gymnast Muriel Grossfeld for her fx at the 1964 US Olympic trials. (She is one of only 5 US female gymnasts to have competed at three Olympics).
In 1965 US gymnast Hali Sheriff scored several perfect scores in competitions.
In 1966 Vera Caslavska scored 10 at the Czechoslovakian national championships.
In 1966, in a junior competition, Liepaya All-Union meet in Latvia, Olga Korbut scored a 10 on assymetric bars.
At the 1966 World championships 1 judge scored Natalia Kuchinskaya a 10 for her beam exercise. Also at 66 Worlds 2 judges scored Druzhnina 10 on fx in event final.
In 1967 at the European championships Caslavska scored 10 for both her beam and floor routines during event finals.
At the 1968 East German championships Zuchold scored 10’s on floor and vault. Janz also scored a 10 on vault.
At the 1968 USSR Championships Larissa Petrik scored 10’s on floor and vault, Natalia Kuchinskaya a 10 on bars.
Nina Dronova scored a 10 on floor in 1971 at the USSR jr Spartakiade.
At the 1974 world championships 1 judge scored Ludmilla Turischeva a 10 on floor. Also at the 1974 World championships 2 judges scored Annelore Zinke a 10 on bars in AA final.
At the 1975 Romanian national championships Nadia Comaneci Scored her first 10’s.
At the 1976 East German championships Marina Schalck scored a 10 on beam. Carola Dombeck twice scored a 10 on bars.
In March 1976 Dombeck scored a 10 on vault at the GDR V Cuba Dual-meet.
In 1976 Nadia Comaneci scored 6 tens in a dual meet Romania v Holland ; she scored 4 tens in a dual meet Romania v West Germany; She scored 4 tens at the Romanian Olympic trials; She scored 2 tens at the American Cup .Ungureanu scored a 10 on beam at 76 Romanian nationals.
2 judges scored Agnes Keleti a 10 for her floor exercise at the 1952 Olympics.
At the Swiss Olympic Trials in 1952 Josef Stalder scored the perfect score for his compulsory pommel horse exercise.
John Paul Leavey, I would LOVE to have access to the source that you have for this. In looking at the results listed on Gymn-Forum for the women at the 1952 Olympics, there were only 2 composite scores in the entire competition of 9.8 or higher, of which Keleti’s 9.86 on optional FX is the highest (the other being Nina Bocharova’s compulsory VT score of 9.8). That must have been some performance by Keleti!
Incidentally, do you have the individual judges scores for Armenian-Soviet Hrant Shahinyan on Optionals Rings. His 9.95 there was the highest composite score, I believe, in the Arthur Gander COP era from 1952 onwards, for any gymnast (male or female) at the Olympics until Nadia’s 10s in 1976.
Hi William. Keleti’s score with 2 judges awarding her a 10 are mentioned in an article on this site “1952 : The Women’s Optionals at the Helsinki Olympics”. I thought i saw it mentioned in another article here also but i can’t find it now and might be mistaken.
Unfortunatly i don’t have the individual judges scores for Hrant Shahinyan. Individual scores seem very difficult to find for most competitions.
i Didn’t realise his 9.95 score was the highest composite score at an Olympics from 52-76. Well spotted.
I really would like to add this to the Wikipedia article for The Perfect 10 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10_(gymnastics) ). So often, Nadia is mis-cited and mis-reported as having the first perfect scores in the sport. It’s not even appropriate to say that they were the first 10s at the Olympic level, not even artistic apparatus 10s (because in addition to all the rope-climbing ones in 1924, there was also Eugen Mack’s vaults). (And how often does she ever correct this misreporting? EVER?) Her 7 10s WERE an important phenomenon, but to keep misreporting the phenomenon is to perpetuate a huge injustice against the history of the sport and the dozens of people who did score perfect scores before her at the level of the World Championships AND Olympics, and this includes a few gymnasts who recorded *several* perfect scores.
The problem I have with adding them is that this blog entry is the only one I know of that treats the issue with any depth. Also, I want to be able to frame the 10s that she and numerous others scored from the 1970s-1990s, as the apex of a trend that had a context with the instituting of the Gander code beginning at the 1952 Olympics that went out after the 2005 Worlds, and I am having a hard time finding the sources that I need that say what I want them to say in order to appropriately frame the discussion of perfect scores within the history of the sport. There is a lot of groundwork lacking on the history of the sport of Artistic Gymnastics, and there are certain limitations that I just cannot surmount by myself in my attempt to help establish that framework and clarify it, although I do thank you for all of the work that you have done on this website.
This is not related to perfect scores, but it is related to Comaneci and her not setting the record straight, which I already brought up in relation to her and perfect scores before her. One thing I generally don’t like is false humility. In interviews with her about the competition in 1980, she always says that Davydova was the better gymnast. But I think that regardless of whether Comaneci has false or true humility about this, the fact that she chooses the path of false humility ended up totally skirting the issue of a practically mortally wounded Elena Mukhina and how, if you look at certain details (same first name, both doing a Thomas salto skill on FX), Davydova looks to have been a proxy for Mukhina, and therefore, Davydova’s win should probably be considered at least partially symbolic. So, Mukhina was the “Elephant in the Room” at the 1980 Olympics women’s competition, probably about every bit as much as the boycott, itself.
But one thing I have wondered for a while is – among those who were actually there, who REALLY deserved to win in 1980? Well, the thing is, it is a LOT harder to establish this sort of debate for any AA competition before New Life, because you have to compare 3 times the number of routines vs what you would have to compare under new life. So, for competitions pre-New Life that included a team compulsories, team optionals, and all-around 1988 or before, which was pretty much every Worlds/Olympics that I know of back to 1972, you had to compare 12 for the women and 18 for the men. And that is a ton of work. And, really, it opens up the door. For example, if you had a true dominant champion, they could easily count a fall or maybe even two among 12 routines, if you were a woman, and you were truly the best by a significant margin. Definitely 2 falls, maybe even 3 among the men. So, that adds up a lot of subjectivity in an already-subjective sport.
So, there is no way that I am going to do a 12-12 just to argue 2 gymnasts against each other, much less a 18-18 for the men. Besides, with the Moscow Olympics, the USA and many of its allies boycotted those, so we can rely only on the partial coverage that the Eastern Bloc provided us. It’s been a while since I’ve done a survey on this, but I have done it in the past, and I seem to remember observing that a *number* of routines from the top gymnasts haven’t been released. Really, the video record we have of the 1980 Olympics is quite incomplete, even among the topmost gymnasts, and even for an Olympics during its timeframe.
If you look at the scores of the women’s competition enough, it seems like there was pretty much a Top tier of 6, and the AA reflected that pretty accurately. So, what I decided to do was a head-to-head among the top women’s AA gymnasts. So, I did it. From here on out, I provide no opinions, whatsoever, although I do point out a few observations. This is strictly a mini-deep-dive into a limited, but perhaps meaningful, data set.
Comaneci vs Davydova 6 3 3
Comaneci vs Gnauck 6 2 4
Comaneci vs Eberle 8 1 3
Comaneci vs Shaposhnikova 5 4 3
Comaneci vs Kim 9 3 –
Davydova vs Comaneci 3 6 3
Davydova vs Gnauck 3 4 5
Davydova vs Eberle 6 4 2
Davydova vs Shaposhnikova 5 5 2
Davydova vs Kim 6 2 4
Gnauck vs Davydova 4 3 5
Gnauck vs Comaneci 2 6 4
Gnauck vs Eberle 7 1 4
Gnauck vs Shaposhnikova 5 5 2
Gnauck vs Kim 7 1 4
Eberle vs Comaneci 1 8 3
Eberle vs Davydova 4 6 2
Eberle vs Gnauck 1 7 4
Eberle vs Shaposhnikova 3 7 2
Eberle vs Kim 5 4 3
Shaposhnikova vs Comaneci 4 5 3
Shaposhnikova vs Davydova 5 5 2
Shaposhnikova vs Gnauck 5 5 2
Shaposhnikova vs Eberle 7 3 2
Shaposhnikova vs Kim 8 3 1
Kim vs Davydova 2 6 4
Kim vs Comaneci 3 9 –
Kim vs Gnauck 1 7 4
Kim vs Eberle 4 5 3
Kim vs Shaposhnikova 3 1 8
Observations:
At least among head-to-heads, Comaneci is the ONLY one who comes out ahead of all the other top gymnasts – even Davydova, who beat her. So, it really seems that she was the best, overall, in Moscow. The only exception I would make to this observation is that if you consider that the team scores were halved and added to the AA, that does, yes, give more weight to the AA final, which is perhaps appropriate. But if you were to count the team scores FULLY, actually Maxi Gnauck of Germany posted the highest 12-event total (118.75 vs 118.65 for Davydova, and vs 118.6 for both Comaneci and Shaposhnikova). I think this is interesting also because I only recently discovered that, if you include the “Alternate Olympics” in 1980 and 1984, Gnauck is one of only 4 woman gymnasts EVER to tally a World/Olympic win on every individual apparatus, a distinction she shares with only Caslavska, Latynina, and Milosovici. This is something she ended up accomplishing at the 1984 “Alternate Olympics” in Olomouc, CzechoSlovakia.
Other interesting things I discovered:
Among the top 6, Nadia Comaneci and Nelli Kim are the only two who never tied each other. They each tied numerous other gymnasts numerous other times, total, but never each other. (Although this did happen, eventually, only on the last event – the FX final, where both had 9.95s which, combined with an equal preliminary score (although different compulsories and optionals for each), gave them the tie on the Floor, so they did tie THERE, just not at any point where it was relevant to the AA (including either of the 4-event totals for either compulsories on optionals).
Also, I noticed that there was an interesting relationship between Davydova, Gnauck, and Shaposhnikova, where Davydova went 5-5-2 with both of them, if you look at her head-to-head vs the top 5 others. This sort of thing also comes up with Gnauck’s head-to-head sets where she went 7-1-4 with both Eberle and Kim. So, with that sort of “meta tie”, all 5 except for Comaneci are inter-related.
We don’t have much info on the 1896, (early) 1900 (early), 1908 (early), or 1920 (underpublished) results.
There is a lot more info that exists for the 1904 results, but that is sort of in a backlog of things I have to look at. The 1932 Olympics probably have a lot of data that hasn’t been uploaded/edited yet on Wikipedia.
As far as 1912, it looks like 36 might have been the cap, suggesting 2 or 3 routines, total, per apparatus. Adolfo Tunesi scored a 35.75 on Pommel Horse, so there might be a couple of 10s in there. Louis Segura and Marcel Lalu scored, respectively, a 35.75 and 35.5 on Parallel Bars, so there might be one or more among them, there.
No 10s for 1936. Konrad Frey (9.8) on compulsory Pommel Horse, Alois Hudec (9.8) on optional Rings were the 2 highest scores.
Research suggests that Nadia Comaneci is honest and accurate when she says that Elena Davydova was the better gymnast in Moscow.
The United States Olympic Committee, United States Olympic book 1980, p.140-141, (On Davydova), ”There was never a doubt about her all-around abilities. Simply stated, however, it was expected that judges, by their very nature, might favour the better known and more established international stars…But the order of finish Davydova, Gnauck and Comaneci (tie), Shaposhnikova and Kim certainly accurately reflects the relative abilities of the worlds top gymnasts”.
IG, March 81, p.6, Elisa Estape, a gymnastics coach from Spain and Professor of Gymnastics at the University of Leon, who not only got to see the gymnastics live but had all the routines filmed and evaluated wrote “I was in Moscow and, after having analysed my films, I am absolutely convinced that Y.Davydova was the proper winner in the AA final…She was the gymnast who earned everyone’s heart and her dance captivated everyone in Moscow, as Olga Korbut did in Munich. For me she was the proper winner. On the other hand Nadia Comaneci was overscored on beam and vault of the compulsories. On the optionals, on bars, (she missed the bars for a 9.5), on floor she obtained 9.95, like Davydova, for a routine with no originality. N.Comaneci was in Moscow a good gymnast but not the best one” Yelena’s fx deserved, for me, more than a ten (comparing to the 9.95 given to Comaneci, Gnauck and Eberle).
Ursel Baer then secretary of the British Amateur Gymnastics Association (BAGA), was a leading British judge who had officiated at the Rome, Munich and Montreal Olympic Games and at several World Championships. She was the Scientific Technical Collaborater (STC) on beam in 1980, that is, she determined the start value of all the routines performed. In the British Gymnast magazine, September 80 p.26, she says “Davydova richly deserved to be Olympic champion”.
Paul Williams, chairman of the BAGA mens technical committee, was a judge at the mens gymnastics in Moscow. He reviewed the women’s AA final and wrote p.26, British Gymnast, Sept 80, ”Davydova fully deserved her gold medal, in a brilliant display of high quality work”.
Jeff Cheales, an Australian mens gymnastics judge, was a judge at the men’s gymnastics in Moscow also and added ”I can remember seeing Davydova competing and being very impressed. She was spectacular. I can also remember seeing Comaneci compete and thinking she looked ordinary. She did not have the look of the gymnast of 4 years earlier.” Cheales judged at 79 World Championships, 80 84 96 Olympics etc.
Tony Duffy and Paul Wade, Winning Women : The Changing Face Of Women in Sport, 1982, p.96, agreed “ She (Nadia) had to bow to Yelena Davydova the overall champion who showed the grace and vivacity that is an essential adjunct to skill”.
Dvora Meyers, “The End Of The Perfect 10”, 2016, p.52, “ Like Mukhina had done before her tragic injury, Davydova upped the athletic ante by bringing skills from the men’s side of the sport. On the uneven bars she performed a release move called a Tkatchev. To do this, the gymnast swings down from the handstand and then, when their body os stretched and parallel to the floor, she releases up and over the bar, regrasping by counter-rotating her hips and reaching through straddled legs. This was much harder and far more technical than Comaneci’s release move, which had been the first same bar release for a woman back in the mid-70’s. Davydova was also credited with having performed the first front tuck and side somersault on the balance beam. And on floor exercise, she performed a rollout tumbling move similar to the one that Mukhina had so grievously injured herself practicising”.
Just before the Olympics the Romanian head coach Bela Karolyi named Davydova as Nadia Comaneci’s main rival for the Olympic title (FIG World of Gymnastics, vol 3, no 1). Frank Taylor, President of the World Association of Sports Writers, went one step further and predicted Davydova to be the winner. On July 17th in conversation with Romanian journalist Horia Alexandrescu Nadia mentioned Davydova as one of her 3 main rivals. As the competition began BBC Radio reported on podium training discussing the established stars but added that on the basis of what they had seen they advised viewers to watch out for Elena Davydova and that if she performed as well in competition as she had during podium training then she would take gold as her exercises were more exciting and daring than the more well known gymnasts.
Under the present Olympic AA scoring system – New Life – Elena Davydova would not only have still won the 1980 AA title but she would have won it by a larger margin. The scores on the night of the AA final in 1980 were Davydova 39.65, Comaneci 39.55, Shaposhnikova 39.45, Gnauck 39.3.
Under this scoring system – brought in in 2003 – with only 2 gymnasts from the same nation qualifying to the AA final Nadia wouldn’t have made it as her team optional score of 39.2 (tied with Ruhn) was lower than that of Grigoras (39.3) and Eberle (39.5)
In the team competition – whose scores counted towards both AA medals and event finals – Davydova was hampered by performing 4th for her team before Kim and Shaposhnikova. Comaneci and Gnauck performed 6th for their respective teams. (To Davydova it was like beginning an 800m race 60m behind the starting line). Essentially they had a head start over Davydova in the scoring and she would have to perform better than them to achieve the same score. The superiority of Davydova is shown by her winning the AA from 4th position. A huge disadvantage. She was relegated to early positions in the line-ups which really affected some of her scores.
Several researchers – Ansorge and Scheer 1975, Ansorge, Scheer, Laub and Howard 1978, Plessner 1999, Damisch, Mussweiler and Plessner 2006, Morgan and Rotthoff 2010 – have reported sequential order bias. They documented that gymnasts appearing last within a team have a significant score advantage due to judge’s expectations that the best will appear last.
Latynina quoted In Women’s Gymnastics : A History, 1995, Minot Simons, ” The coaches knew that the order was of vital importance to the eventual winner. The last person on the team was always treated more kindly by the judges”.
In the AA Each gymnast was now on her own. Each had to build her own ladder to the top. In the team competition some gymnast’s scores had been built upon the scores their teammates had received, but they didn’t have that benefit in the AA. Gnauck’s scores were bumped by her placement in lineup. You will notice that said score total did not hold up in AA. Excluding her fall Nadia’s AA scores also did not hold up. Davydova increased her score.
Comaneci had outscored Davydova by 0.45 in compulsories but Davydova outscored her in all other stages of the competition where they met. Davydova outscored her by 0.4 in optionals, 0.1 in AA final, 0.3 in event finals.
Between compulsory and optional exercises, AA final and beam and vault event finals, Davydova, Comaneci and Gnauck faced each other 14 times. In these head-to-head events Davydova scored 138.225, Gnauck scored 137.975, Comaneci 137.875. If we take the 10 optional exercises, the more creative and artistic routines, the scores were Davydova 98.825, Gnauck 98.275, Comaneci 98.025.
In her competitive days Nadia certainly wasn’t noted for having false humility.The New York Times, Nov 12, 1978, mentioned an instance of poor behaviour, “Romania’s Nadia Comaneci, 16, won on balance beam but when she realised she was losing the uneven bars to Marcia, she stalked by and shook some chalk dust at her. “Maybe it was an accident” said Marcia Frederick “but everybody who saw it happen said it wasn’t”. A more gracious competitor was Russian Elena Mukhina the All-Around winner, who kissed Marcia after her victory”. There is a story that in Tokyo at the 1979 World Cup when Nadia realised she wasn’t going to win that she shoved Stella Zakharova (the winner) as she went by, knocking her off balance.International Gymnast magazine (IG) in 1982 criticised Nadia for “her arrogant, dismissive attitude to other gymnasts”.
1979 was a historic year for Nadia. She became the first gymnast to win 3 consecutive European AA titles. However she had to compete only 4 routines. In her next 4 routines in event finals she failed on both bars (9.45) and beam (9.35). A person’s reputation can certainly get distorted with distance, like a mirage. After Montreal falls from bars and beam were as common for Nadia as 10’s. She scored as many 10’s on beam and bars in Montreal as she would in the remaining 5 years and 3 months of her career.
In relation to the 1979 European Championships Lyn Moran wrote in her book “ The Young Gymnasts”, 1979, p.61, “ Nadia led the way for Emilia Eberle to follow in the European Championships in Denmark, but there was a lot of talk about it. Lots of people watching said that Emilia was actually better than Nadia, and that the judges had been giving Nadia extra points because they liked her. I thought that Emilia was better on the beam and on the bars, yet Nadia got a better score in the all around than did Emilia”. In Gymnastics World Magazine May/June 79 p.9 she added about Nadia “ I thought she was overscored on floor. The routine was neither innovative nor difficult”.
At the World Cup in June in Tokyo Nadia fluffed bars again and her beam exercise was under-time. She finished behind Zakharova, Kim and Eberle and barely ahead of Kraker.
In July at a competition in Romania she was beaten by the 13 year old Anca Kiss.
The 1979 World Championships in December were the most important competition of that year but in reviewing Nadia’s career in IG, November 83, John Crumlish noted “ Comaneci led the field after compulsories although observers felt the judges favored her “. For example on beam Nadia scored 9.9 even though her exercise was recorded as 1 minute 11 seconds. This should have meant a 0.2 deduction for being short on time but this deduction wasn’t taken. There was also a question as to whether she had performed the correct dismount. The only optional exercise she performed was her brave one-handed routine on beam but it is generally regarded as being marginally overscored, the judges swayed by her courage.
In 1980 Nadia won the Romanian International Championships shortly before the Olympics. But again she faltered and on the night of the AA final itself ( routines 8-12 of 12 ) was outscored by Melita Ruhn. Compared with the other gymnasts her score dropped sharply. Nadia’s score dropped by – 0.25. Ruhn increased her score by + 0.7, Dunca +0.55, Turner + 0.45, Eberle + 0.35.
Nadia hit 12 marvellous routines in Montreal to win her AA title. To retain this title in 1980 she would have to hit 12 for 12 again. But by 1978 this was a problem for her. Bars and beam – now showed a persistent lack of consistency, a decline in performance. Nadia had difficulty maintaining a constant high competitive level over 12 routines.
Bars in particular was now an apparatus that brought more grief than glory for Nadia. In 1978 she stopped competing her trade mark Comaneci Somie. She never competed it as an adult. After controversially sharing gold with Mukhina at the May 1977 Europeans Nadia would not win a medal of any colour on bars at a major competition until the even more controversial University Games in Bucharest in October 1981. Her fall from bars at the 1980 Olympics was not a surprise but a confirmation.
At the Olympics itself Bela felt Nadia’s reputation would help her, that her name alone would leverage some scores.(Also known as Celebrity tenths). Vitably Scherbo,”If you have more titles more image you will get a higher score”.
Davydova was the only female gymnast to score in the top 5 on each piece of apparatus in the ALL-Around competition (combined score team compulsories, team optionals, AA final). Both she and Nadia were wonderful gymnasts and at this competition Davydova had the edge.